Crisis of Conscience

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  New Article - Birthdays, Why the Watchtower stance is wrong

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a new article at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/birthdays.php outlining why the watchtower stance against birthdays is wrong.

  there have been a number of threads on jwn discussing this, and the article collates and summarises the points raised in these threads.

  please feel free to point out any errors in grammar or logic.

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  Awesome article! Thanks for sharing jwfacts.

  CoC
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  Surprise Elder's Visit-FAIL

  by iclone in

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  2. friends

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  Marked......... because I just might have to use it one day! LOL Thanks for sharing! That was awesome!

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  Why do many of us spend so many years defending a God we MAY never meet?

  by Crisis of Conscience in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as a jw still in, i have been thinking about this.

  (and i ask the question in the spirit of "millions now living will/may never die!

  ") lol.

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  BTTT
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  Conti Dep Pages

  by dontplaceliterature in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://imgur.com/a/mlgkh#0.

  can someone make it live?

  i am posting from an ipad and it doesn't seem to be working.

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  I'd like to see a video also if it's available. If I find something, I'll post it.

  Thanks for the info.

  CoC
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  The Smoking Gun in the Conti Case!

  by Diest in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think this thread got lost in the shuffle, so i wanted to make another one.

  these are some of the key pages from the deposition of the lead elder, michael lee clarke.

  clarke admits he gets his marching orders from the wts.

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  Bookmarked

  Thank you!
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  Just wondering, who here is still a JW? x

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wondering who here still attends meetings, and lives the jw life?

  i guess its interesting for the context of peoples comments.

  also does anyone have a position such as pioneer, ms, elder etc ?.

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  I fall in line with much of what stillin said. The only exception is commenting. Since I stopped over 2 years ago, I haven't tried again.

  I miss a lot of meetings but do attend when I can in support of my wife.

  So far, nothing said currently by the WTS has convinced me to retrace my steps.

  CoC
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  Betrayal

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so far when i have seen the word 'betrayal' or 'betrayed' on these boards, it's in reference to how we feel betrayed by the watchtower society, family, or individuals within the organization.

  we all understand this feeling well.

  i can relate to many of the sentiments expressed.. but the other night with my therapist, towards the very end of the session, the word 'betrayal' came up in reference to myself.. the therapist noted that i seemed to be 'holding back' with her.

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  WOW BOC! That was an excellent point to share. I'd like to read that book now.

  While I don't deal with the guilt factor anymore directly/outwardly, I find the betrayal feeling to be an indirect way of saying at times I still feel guilty. Long time "friends" share their thoughts about something JW related and at times inside I feel I've betrayed them. I'm listening to what they are saying but I just don't believe most of it anymore. So my not being able to relate to them at times makes me feel guilty. Thus far I calm my inner feelings by reminding myself that I didn't arrive at my current thoughts and feelings over night. It took countless hours of sometimes painful research that still hasn't ended. And that brings me tremendous comfort.

  Therapy has helped me to stop ,when facing an irrational emotion on my part, and think rationally. With that I've found myself much calmer with my new beliefs and feelings.

  My next hurdle is really believing my JW wife supports me no matter what, since I know the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society feeds her different info. She has been very supportive, and she regularly reminds me of how she feels about me despite my changes. I just find it hard to believe it all because of the Society's influence. I'm working on that.

  We'll see what the future holds. Regardless, I wish you the best in the struggle, truly.

  CoC
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  Woman jumps into pool during Long Beach DC!

  by puffthedragon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://youtu.be/dht3cedgg6e.

  watch the right hand side of the screen.. .

  i am trying to imbed it but can't make it work.

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  LOL That is awesome puffthedragon!!

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  Breaking news: Jerry Sandusky convicted

  by JeffT in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  45 of 48 counts according to cnn.

  a bad week for pedo's, a good week for children.

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  Too bad the bastard has rights and they won't rule to chop off his little penis.
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  Letter from elders to WT about Jonathan Kendrick and the WT response

  by wolfman85 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

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  i don't know if these letters were posted here before , so i'm sorry if is something that all of you have seen already..

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  diamondiiz does bring up a valid point that went totally over my head. Where is the Watchtower letterhead?

  I know it may not matter to some people, but it is something that always seems to be in the Society's letters, and thus adds to the validity.